# The Role of Deliberation at Scroll DAO **URL:** \ **Category:** Co-Creation Cycle\ **Tags:** co-creation-cycle-1\ **Created:** [December 4, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.scroll.io/t/the-role-of-deliberation-at-scroll-dao/323 "2024-12-04T15:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![eugene](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forum.scroll.io/eugene/32/162_2.png) [@eugene](https://forum.scroll.io/u/eugene)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.scroll.io/t/the-role-of-deliberation-at-scroll-dao/323/1 "2024-12-04T15:50:17Z")
## Overview Getting a post together following today’s discussion. You can [watch the recording from call #14](https://forum.scroll.io/t/recordings-of-ccc-related-calls/293) on deliberation if you missed it. Antoine spoke about what delegation is and provided examples in web3 and beyond. Context: we’re exploring the idea of doing a focused deliberative exercise to refine strategy for the DAO. You can check this [proposal co-design doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/128wuv1LmeM9A27OPoWB2NiEwzxazGaaxaRtDsWf1l3k/edit?usp=sharing) for strategic deliberation. A few folks brought up that they would want to be able to read more / learn more about deliberation, so using this post for two purposes: 1. To share resources relating to deliberation 2. To have a public discussion space on the pros and cons of doing deliberation at Scroll DAO (both generally and in terms of stategy refinement specifically). ## Resources Antoine brought up two web3 instances: - Atom from the start of this year (2024) - [Optimism](https://gov.optimism.io/t/when-is-deliberation-useful-for-optimism-governance/9142) from June 2024 Antoine also mentioned a citizen assembly in the state of Oregon. Not sure if this is the exact one he was referencing, but this is an example of the use of a citizen assembly from summer 2020 about [COVID response](https://healthydemocracy.org/home/projects/oregon-assembly-on-covid-recovery/). Matt also shared this [article in Nature](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03788-6) on the use of fair algorithms for citizen assemblies. ## More Resources from Antoine ### Basic Basic Wikipedia articles which are ok but not of super high quality: > **[Deliberation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deliberation)** > > Deliberation is a process of thoughtfully weighing options, for example prior to voting. Deliberation emphasizes the use of logic and reason as opposed to power-struggle, creativity, or dialogue. Group decisions are generally made after deliberation through a vote or consensus of those involved. > In legal settings a jury famously uses deliberation because it is given specific options, like guilty or not guilty, along with information and arguments to evaluate. In "deliberative democracy", the aim... > **[Sortition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition)** > > Condorcet methods > Positional voting > Cardinal voting > **[Deliberative democracy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deliberative_democracy)** > > Deliberative democracy or discursive democracy is a form of democracy in which deliberation is central to decision-making. Deliberative democracy seeks quality over quantity by limiting decision-makers to a smaller but more representative sample of the population that is given the time and resources to focus on one issue. > It often adopts elements of both consensus decision-making and majority rule. Deliberative democracy differs from traditional democratic theory in that authentic deliberation, ... Database of citizens participation / deliberation: This database is quite complete and shows the diversity of what has been done, can be done: [https://participedia.net/](https://participedia.net/) Here is the network of practitioners worldwide working on the approach: [https://democracyrd.org/](https://democracyrd.org/) ### Intermediate I like the publication from the European Commission which is a good summary although tailored to their view of the world and competences: [https://citizens.ec.europa.eu/document/download/ebc24405-4220-4273-9284-6ef84aa15344\_en?filename=Corporate%20Guidance%20on%20Citizen%20Engagement.pdf](https://citizens.ec.europa.eu/document/download/ebc24405-4220-4273-9284-6ef84aa15344_en?filename=Corporate%20Guidance%20on%20Citizen%20Engagement.pdf) The OECD guidelines are also interesting: [https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/innovative-citizen-participation-and-new-democratic-institutions\_339306da-en.html](https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/innovative-citizen-participation-and-new-democratic-institutions_339306da-en.html) ### Advanced For more advanced research and documentation, I recommend this book: [The Oxford Handbook of Deliberative Democracy: Bachtiger, Andre, Dryzek, John S., Mansbridge, Jane, Warren, Mark E.: 9780198747369: Amazon.com: Books](https://www.amazon.com/Oxford-Handbook-Deliberative-Democracy-Handbooks/dp/0198747365?&tag=siteplugde2997733-21) (I have an epub copy if needed). This book is more recent and covers Citizens’ Assemblies: [De Gruyter Handbook of Citizens’ Assemblies](https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110758269/html?srsltid=AfmBOoppoedrt2MpzlxMchrOgoXIbYEKsd-xdNpAtA8KMaaisFOaYuKS) ### In Web3 First pilot in the cosmos ecosystem: [[Report] Cosmos Citizens’ Assembly - Pilot - Intermediary report - ATOM Economic Zone - Cosmos Hub Forum](https://forum.cosmos.network/t/report-cosmos-citizens-assembly-pilot-intermediary-report/12140) Pilot in the Optimism ecosystem: > **[Retro Funding 4: Deliberative process on the definition of profit](https://gov.optimism.io/t/retro-funding-4-deliberative-process-on-the-definition-of-profit/8083)** > > Optimism’s Retroactive Public Goods Funding (Retro Funding) has been initiated with the vision of impact = profit, the principle that positive impact to the collective should be rewarded. This principle serves as a North Star, motivating the... > **[When Is Deliberation Useful for Optimism Governance?](https://gov.optimism.io/t/when-is-deliberation-useful-for-optimism-governance/9142)** > > When Is Deliberation Useful for Optimism Governance? Experimental Evidence from Retro Funding 4’s Deliberative Process → Full draft of the academic paper (linked here soon) Summary One of the most important questions for Optimism governance is:... I have tried to publish a couple of things too: [https://mirror.xyz/antoinevergne.eth](https://mirror.xyz/antoinevergne.eth) ### Next steps I will keep adding resources to this post as they are shared. On Wed Dec 4 at 1p UTC-5. we will have another discussion on deliberation and I will provide an update following that discussion. _Thanks to Antoine for sharing all of the resources in the post_ ---
**Author:** ![eugene](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forum.scroll.io/eugene/32/162_2.png) [@eugene](https://forum.scroll.io/u/eugene)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.scroll.io/t/the-role-of-deliberation-at-scroll-dao/323/2 "2024-12-05T18:16:18Z")
Here is [another article](https://gov.optimism.io/t/season-6-retro-governance-participation-rewards/9297) that recently came from OP that includes incentives for partaking in deliberation ---
**Author:** ![antoine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ab992/32.png) [@antoine](https://forum.scroll.io/u/antoine)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://forum.scroll.io/t/the-role-of-deliberation-at-scroll-dao/323/3 "2024-12-10T15:22:02Z")
Thanks for the post Eugene. Feel free to ping me for more questions, I will also try to add more and more resources as they come.